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Lively, nicely weighted steering mixes with a chassis that never tries hard to be sporty: it’s just balanced and communicative and capable of more than you’re likely to ever ask. Mostly good. A smart automaker will offer the styling and enough performance to market a car as youthful, while satisfying the pool of customers who need their bodies pampered and have the money to buy it. Maybe in a few years. Seems like they (meaning both the MKZ 3.0T and Fusion Sport) have not yet been provided to the press, and I can’t find any in inventory at any dealers near me, not even “in transit.”. All of that extra hybrid gear restricts trunk volume by 28 percent compared with the regular MKZ. It may be helpful to review cars based on their actual selling price vs. MSRP. The problems experienced by owners of the 2017 Lincoln MKZ during the first 90 days of ownership. Follow on Twitter @goodcarbadcar and on Facebook. The 2017 Lincoln MKZ and MKZ Hybrid are entry-level midsize luxury sedans that are offered in three trim levels (or "Series" in Lincoln-speak): Premiere, Select and Reserve. Not sure if the more soft, the more tender. I looked at the Avalon hybrid and it sells at its top around 45K…and it doesn’t have anywhere near the options the Lincoln does. Meanwhile, Toyota sells more hybrid camrys than V6 camrys. “At this point, most have someone’s name on them. QUIET LUXURY Dave, you can already get an F150 Lariat for $35k. This car is not objectively competitive with what those brands offer and it’s not a bargain when compared against comparably equipped models from those brands. At this point, most have someone’s name on them. It’s like a $2000 Keurig. At $50,000? I once liked sportyish cars, now I’m in the hinterlands for awhile, where its a 2 hour drive to multiple major cities. I imagine a press car has many more people sliding into and out of it. At $50,000?”. Understood about MSRP, but that price is consistent everywhere. This is a 2017 Lincoln MKZ Hybrid Reserve with only 11,000 miles! 2018 Lincoln MKZ: What you need to know US News & World Report - Cars; Matthew McConaughey returns for more weird Lincoln ads Motor Trend; 2017 Buick LaCrosse vs. 2017 Lincoln MKZ… ); most everyone minds their business unless you’re on the wrong end of an election–to which I’m no longer part of the UAW so that doesn’t bother me. Gonna wait now till we see the “new” Taurus. On top of the 2017 MKZ Hybrid’s U.S. market $35,935 base price, spend another $4,500 for Reserve trim, $4,400 for a luxury package featuring a 20-speaker Revel audio system, $2,395 on a technology package filled with active safety kit, $2,995 for a vast panoramic glass roof, $595 for special 19-inch wheels, and $595 on hugely adjustable multi-contour massaging seats. Because nobody puts on cufflinks to drive a Ford. There is no Taurus. I tend to think that’s poor tailoring, not wear. changing the rear of a car is a lot more involved than the front. You can also legitimately ask whether you wouldn’t be better off with a Toyota Avalon. But these hybrids take away any truck volume. I have had to send for small bottles of matching touch up to hide. Plus it comes with a useable trunk opening. I’d be at the dealer for a remedy for a console cover that doesn’t stay closed, even if the car was a KIA, let alone a LINCOLN. First spotting. https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/675459672/overview/ I’ll use almost every bit of the 100k mile bumper-to-bumper warranty coverage in the 3 remaining years, it’s getting an honest-to-goodness 37MPG average, with several trips over 40, and it has a ridiculous amount of tech for a $21k used car. Like Adam said…the sticker doesn’t matter, as these are all leased anyway. Gone is the previous car’s matte grey, scratch-fantastic plastic. So comically bad that they win TTAC’s Tightwad Pre-Owned Luxury Vehicle of Choice Award? They’ve been ordered. At this price, no. Seem to be a few in dealer inventory. I drove an MKZ 3.0TT yesterday. That dip in the pavement half a mile ago is still causing the rear occupants’ bellies to teeter-totter as the MKZ attempts to locate its equilibrium. “I want to know whether the MKZ 3.0T drives better or worse than the 2.7T Fusion Sport.”. “Be careful on the South Side. Then again, no one’s reviewed the new Continental, so who knows, but I’d expect it to drive a lot like a MKS Ecoboost – not a bad thing, but not a car you could sell for upwards of $75,000. As an actual European, it looks a bit like an older Jaguar. Well for me, there are two reasons. Many, perhaps all, of the MKZ’s faults would nevertheless be easily overlooked at $37,895, the price at which a 2017 Ford Fusion Hybrid Platinum is equipped, in large part, like this very MKZ Hybrid. Is any Fusion available with AWD? It would be easy for an auto writer, one who wouldn’t dream of spending $50,820 on a midsize sedan that makes me look older than my father, to draw attention to the inherent value of the MKZ’s Ford Fusion foundation. Unfortunately, it looks like Lincoln is still missing the mark. Anyone have a technical brief available to link? Fortunately, the refreshed MKZ Hybrid does not need to be driven in Comfort/Eco mode. I bet the highway miles would melt away nicely in this. Typical transaction price is at least as relevant as MSRP. This would be a good used car to buy after a couple of years especially one that has returned from a lease. I hate the XTS. The rear is good, as it was before. TrueCar is generally regional; YMMV. Lincoln needs a V6 hybrid system. Aside from the sometimes noisy powertrain, there are other niggling issues that cause the MKZ to feel insufficiently Lincoln-ized. Adding a hybrid system to the v6 really increases the complexity and cost without making the car appreciably faster or more efficient. One thing I miss since the Fiat dealer I bought my car from closed was the service experience and that made owning the car more enjoyable. 3.7L, 3.0T, 3.5T (for the SUVs), and V6 hybrid would be a good lineup. He didn’t care about the ride, he cared about the size, brand, and (some) of the features. Then select Comfort. It never reminded me of a luxo-barge no matter what setting it was in. Last time I was at the dealership for service, I was making coffee for people because I was the only Lincoln owner that didn’t fight the Nazis. Find the best used 2017 Lincoln MKZ Reserve near you. They got all the updates and revisions from the 2011 Explorer. . Hybrid Reserve FWD Shop This Vehicle Shop This Vehicle Avg. Only problem is that is it made in Hermosillo, Mexico. I can “Build Your Own” on the Ford site for a Fusion Sport, are they not on dealer lots already? That title has long been held by the MKZephyr, although the MK(Tauru)S has been making strides in that field as well. I mean it. Basically the same color as this MKZ, I think. Yeah, but that Avalon Hybrid Limited actually leaves lots well under 40k. Also, if TrueCar says you can get it for $42k, you can get it for probably $40k. Interestingly, my father (late 60s) recently opted for a much harder RDX (last-gen) over an Outback 3.6R, even though he lives in a town with bad roads. . True, but people over 50 especially are more concerned with comfort, since those little twisties they suffered in their 20s and shrugged off tend to come back to haunt them in their later years. I want to know whether the MKZ 3.0T drives better or worse than the 2.7T Fusion Sport. If a V6 hybrid is that unpalatable, then build a better-than-Ford I4 hybrid. ^this. The Fusion is not Haldex, it uses a Ford designed and built system. Because the V6 hybrids set the sales charts ablaze, right? They want the “real deal”…which will then be driven like a Camry for its life on our third-worldy roads. I just don’t think that throwing the Fusion engine into a Lincoln and charging $50k (while needing $10k in incentives to actually sell) for it is going to help the brand move forward. You are correct. For me, this is the primary difference between the MKZ and the Fusion. I will say that the steering weighting and feel, as well as the overall handling and ride of the 2017 seemed better than the 2016 I drove earlier-not sure why though. I think I’ve worn long pants 5 times in the last 6 months, to visit active sites that require PPE. Why would I select this over the Fusion? 2) I fail to see how this is better than a $50K Genesis, which is not in any way based on an entry-level Sonata that can be had for $20K. View detailed specs, features and options for the 2017 Lincoln MKZ Hybrid Reserve FWD at U.S. News & World Report. It has this little espresso pod things and is full of milk and such too. MONEY No, but I do think the V8 Charger is a Fusion Sport competitor. Coffee is made in a blue kettle over a wood stove, and that’s an end of it! That’s better fuel economy than my Optima Hybrid. Lincoln says the brand now majors on Quiet Luxury, and that may be true in other MKZs or in the new Continental, but quiet this hybrid is not. That is a place where Lincoln should’ve invested a bit more money that would’ve have paid dividends. I want to see two separate tests. I don’t think Lexus has any plans to cancel its V6 and V8 hybrid programs. Get KBB Fair Purchase Price, MSRP, and dealer invoice price for the 2017 Lincoln MKZ Reserve Hybrid Sedan 4D. Listing Price $23,995 Avg. It’s fancier than a Keurig. The inline-4 hybrid midsize sedans get around smartly with unreasonably good fuel efficiency. In fact, the 2017 MKZ is at its best when, as is often the case, Lincoln allows the MKZ to manifest its deep-seated Ford Fusion roots. I may check it out. I agree that $50K is too much for an MKZ. I’d also assume the $51K Lincoln would rather compete with the $60k Lexus than with the $27K Toyota. I like my current job and I’m going to start contributing here. Most are ordered or in transit. Ok gas mileage and fun features that make it unique and fun to drive, Power, ride, comfort, electronics, styling, - like Lincoln’s robotic massage therapist isn’t nearly as good at his job as the active bolster designer. I think the front end design looked better on the old car than this new version. And the V6s don’t drink too much gas anymore. Get a free price quote from a local dealer, The J.D. View detailed ownership costs for the 2017 Lincoln MKZ on Edmunds. So the seat is that sloppy at the bolster to cause the wrinkling? I believe that’s your answer…their resale is comically bad. One, I find the Lincoln to be much better looking (though the ’17 refresh helped the Fusion a little), and two, based on my observations, the assembly quality of the Fusion is atrocious compared to the MKZ. Nice fix on the front end, but you missed the rear. Figures. I do not buy Mexican cars. But that is not what’s going on here. But then when the MKZ first arrived I didn’t like the style at all. With your left hand’s thumb, scroll through the steering wheel-mounted controls and select Settings. Move up to Driver Assist. Assuming it’s still showroom condition, that was the standard, the highest level of fit and finish for the era. It’s still one person at a time, for a few days at a time. With air conditioning cranked this week, the 2017 MKZ achieved an impressive 39 mpg. I’m a bit nervous about all of these twin turbos being developed right now.

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